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Dear Millionaire, त्यत्रो पैसा ग्रान्डमा हाल्नु भन्दा अरुतिरै लगानी गर्नुस/ तपाइको कल्याण हुन्छ/
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Dear Bimalman sir
I want to buy 2000 to 5000 units of GRAND for at least one year holding purpose. Should I still wait to fall the price or invest at current rate? Please advise. Thank you so much in advance.
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Dear Satya, You are right.
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Teso Vaye aba Demate Account kholna aniwarya nai 6 hai na ta Bimalman Ji
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अब बाणिज्य बैंकको शेयर किन्नेको हितग्राही खाता अनिवार्य
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असोजमा १६ दिन मात्रै खुल्दैछ पुजीँबजार, दशैं र तिहारको बीचमा बजारमा ठूलो उतार चढाव नदेखिने -
www.bizmandu.com/content/-9002.html#.VDPuW6jojxs
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Bimalman sir,
Should I buy GBIME after or before the book close?
And, what's your opinion on NHPC for long term hold? Should I wait to fall below the current price?
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Registered: Aug 2014
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This is pure mathematics leaving any rooms for view, opinion....you may simulate of your own.. Or look at EPS and diluted EPS...for which accounting standard has prescribed its rules.

If bonus issue were to guarantee as much success as Nabil, this approach would have been written in golden letter and there would not have been any inferior companies to Nabil.

To be able to issue handsome bonus gives indication to the effect that company had earned great profit in the past, however, bonus issue (which is irrelevant if company issues bonus share or keep the profit as reserve) is not pre-condition to keep momentum for growth or does not guarantee the growth.

What would have happened if Nabil did not issue bonus shares? It's reserve would have ballooned, cash would be with it for re-investment, it would have earned the same profit but EPS would have been higher and market price of share would have been much higher.

Still speculative investors profit from bonus shares is because of mass psychology that bonus issue creates wealth - profit comes from loss of new investors or ballooned price of shares.... When balloon burst, you know who suffers...

Then only shares with logical PE ratio survives the burst.
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Registered: Mar 2014
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Dear Sustainableji, you may be right to some extent but I am not completely satisfied with your view.
Bonus share will not always dilute the earning power of share..It can be in short term but for long term, investment opportunities can be utilised by the cash and business growth is a phenomenon which goes on increasing that will grow accordingly with strength of company.
For simple...let's see NABIL, it's maintaining same ratio of dividend each time for increasing shares also..
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There should not be any reason why share price increase with the declaration of higher dividend /bonus. Technically speaking, this decision should not affect share value. If bonus is issued, this will dilute the earning power of each share, and value per share should be proportionately reduced. So is the case with dividend. Dividend issue reduces reserve and surplus - it is no different if cash remains with the company or returned to customer. This is purely a financial decision and does not affect the earning power of share.

Reason being investors are desperate about higher bonus / dividend is because their approach is very short term. They want to earn profit in short term and walk away. Nepalese share market is run by insider trading / rumor / speculations. I have hardly seen investors in Nepal who consider EPS, PE Ratio and other relevant KPIs over speculation about rate of dividend / bonus and think of long term approach, say for 3-5 years. This market needs to grow up.
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Dear shareguru, लगानीकर्ताहरुले चिलिमेबाट ३०% भन्दा बढी बोनस शेयरको अपेक्षा बिपरित २०% मात्र बोनस घोषणा भएकोले मूल्य बढ्न नसकेको हुनु पर्छ/
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What about CHCL??? 20% bonus dida pani kina badna nasakeko hola??
Analysis garau ta sathi haru...
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Dear Satya, Don't worry, just hold now.
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Dear Bimalman Sir, thank you very much for your suggestion. i have bought some script few week ago but still in loss. Market is going down day by day. i want to add some more but I do not have any more money to invest .......................
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लगानीकर्ता साथीहरु,धैर्य गर्नुस बजार बढ्छ/ सबै कमाऊ धन्दामा लागेका छन् / सावधान,ब्रोकरहरु नै लागि परेका छन्/ सानो रकमको कारोवार हुँदा पनि समयमा राफसाफ गर्न सकिरहेका छैनन्/ अहिले बजारमा आतिएर बेच्नु पर्ने कुनै कारण छैन/ पर्खिनु भने जरुरी छ/

अपडेटः १७ अंक बढेर फेरि घट्यो, नियामक भन्छन्– ब्रोकरको बदमासीले बजार घट्यो, नडराउन अाग्रह -
www.bizmandu.com/content/-8687.html#.VBAOwqjojxs
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साथीहरु/ तपाई अल्पकालीन लगानी गर्ने सोचमा हुनुहुन्छ भने उपयुक्त समय आएको छ/ बजार बढ्न शुरु गर्यो राम्रा राम्रा कम्पनीको सस्तो मुल्यमा छानी छानी किन्नुस र नाफा कमाऊनुस / शुभकामना/
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Dear Dhurbaji, what u said are sweet but it can be in in words only....
In reality no body knows whether market will increase or decrease...If anybody know the downfall and upward...This could be tree of money.
I think holding during decrease and entry and exit at a targeted prices of good stocks is quite more practical...just sharing my views not opposing u..
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Market ghatera sabai ley bechna thalda aafu kinne ghatayara ... market jun bela badchha aani badayara bechne ... Easiest option ... go against the most of the investor then you will earn.... Dherai expect nagarne paisa lai rolling garairakhne ....
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Dear Satya, कुरा सहि हो/ समग्र बजार घट्दा सबैलाई घाटा हुनु स्वाभाविक हो/ किनेका शेयरहरु अहिले होल्ड गर्नुस/ घाटामा गएका शेयरहरुलाई सस्तो मुल्यमा किनी परल मूल्य कम गर्ने प्रयास गर्नुस/ त्यहि बुद्दिमानी हुन् सक्छ/
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Bimalman sir tapaiko pahila ko post anusar kineko kehi sahre ma ta alli ali profit ma 6u but bigat 1 and 1/2 months dekhi ko yours suggestion lai follow garna kosis gari share purchage garen but I m in loss now. Please suggest me what I have to do ? off load all the share or ......
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साथीहरु/ ग्लोबल आइएमइ बैंकको २१ प्रतिशत वोनस सेयर, चार प्रतिशत नगद लाभांसले मूल्य बढाउने भयो / शेयर किन्नुस र नाफा कमाऊनुस /

ग्लोबल आइएमइ बैंकको २५ प्रतिशत लाभांस, २१ प्रतिशत वोनस सेयर, चार प्रतिशत नगद लाभांस -
www.bizmandu.com/content/-8635.html#.VArx6Kjojxs

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thanks bimalman.. for your kind analysis and information :) :) :) :)
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thanks bimalman..
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साथीहरु/ मैले गरेको विश्लेषण सहि निस्किदै गएको छ / देशभरका शेयर विश्लेषक,ठूला शेयर खेलाडीहरु र विज्ञहरुले तत्काल शेयर बजारमा सुधार हुने कुरा ब्यक्त गरिरहदा मैले त्यस बिपरित #३०१ पोस्टमा भनेको कुरा सहि निस्कियो,बजार लगातार घटिरहेको छ/ अहिले बजार ठूला लगानीकर्ता र म्युचुअल फन्डको नियन्त्रण बाहिर गएको छ/
हेर्नुस त मैले त्यो पोस्टमा भनेको थिए कि " अहिलेको बजार हेर्दा त्यस्तो देखिए पनि हिजो सोमवारको बजारले यु टर्न लिएकोले बजार बढ्ने सम्भावना बढाएको छ/ तर मैले पाएको सूचना अनुसार उपत्यका बाहिरका लगानीकर्ताहरुको हतास मानसिकताका कारण सबै शेयर जति मूल्यमा पनि बेच्ने भिड भएकोले यसै हो भन्ने कुरामा बिश्वस्त हुने आधार कम छ/ यस अर्थमा धान पाक्ने बेलामा ठुला लगानीकर्ताहरुले मूल्य घटाएर किन्ने तरखरमा छन् / अहिले शेयर बेच्ने बिक्रेताहरू कि त शेयर बजारका बारेमा अनबिज्ञ छन् वा पैसाको अति जरुरी हुनेहरु छन् / बजार फेरी राम्रो अंक सहित बढ्ने कुरामा शंका छैन,तर प्रतिक्षा गर्न भने जरुरी छ/"

यहि प्रक्रिया चलिरहने हो भने अरु केहि दिन बजार बढ्ने सम्भावना कम र घट्ने सम्भावना बढी छ/बजारको अध्यावधिक सूचना पाइरहनु भएको साथीहरुले केहि दिन धैर्य गरि राम्रा कम्पनीहरुको शेयर होल्ड गर्नुस र आत्तिएर नबेच्नुस/
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aja maile gareko forcast milena. sorry sathiharu.

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