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Age wise interest in my view:

Below 60 and institution- 4.5% max (2% as recommended is too low) (I say banks should charge institution to safe guard their cash instead of paying them interest. There is no way, institution could safeguard their won case which they have in 100s of billions).

Above 60- min- 6.5 and max 8.5%


Loan- 7-10% (excluded special loan like earthquake, loan from govt support).
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खुला बजार भन्ने वालाहरुले केकस्ता प्रतिक्रिया दिन्छन् त्यो भने हेर्नै बाकी छ ।

- Looks like they either have already invested in shares or I am able to teach them a thing or two about economy.


अर्कातिर कम्युनिस्ट सरकारले माइक्रो म्यानेज गर्‍यो भनेर नि आउनेछ ।

- I belong to this group who frequently used micro manage. But in my case, micro manage does not mean setting good limit acceptable to majority. Like, govt can say you cant drink and drive, but cant say you cant drink.

In other word, do what ever you want, but you cant harm others.
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आम नेपाली जनतालाई वित्तीय साक्षरता छैन र यो निर्णयको प्रतिपक्षले अर्को चुनावमा issue बनाउनेछ ।

बैंक ब्याजदर कम हुनु भनेको बैंक बलियो हुनु हो र अर्थतन्त्र पनि सुदृढ हुनु हो भन्ने बुझाउनु जरुरी छ ।

तर फेरि खुला बजार भन्ने वालाहरुले केकस्ता प्रतिक्रिया दिन्छन् त्यो भने हेर्नै बाकी छ ।

अर्कातिर कम्युनिस्ट सरकारले माइक्रो म्यानेज गर्‍यो भनेर नि आउनेछ ।

तर के गर्नु पहिले नै यसैगरी चलाउनु पर्ने डण्डा अहिले चलाउनुपर्ने अपरिहार्य छ । साच्चै भन्नु पर्दा सबैलाई अति भैसक्यो ।
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उद्योगमा जाने बैंक ब्याज ८ प्रतिशतमा झार्न प्रधानमन्त्रीको कार्यदलको सुझाब, बचत उमेर अनुसार

कार्यदलले बैंकले ६० वर्ष माथिका वचतकर्तालाई ७ देखि १० प्रतिशत र यस मुनिकालाई २ प्रतिशत मात्र ब्याज दिने व्यवस्था गर्न अर्थ मन्त्रालयमा राय दिएको छ|


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OK for me, bt does oli have guts :roll:
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" Ati Vayeh Pachi - Antah Huncha"

...Hence a powerful blow is coming to banking sector.....Few idiot and small commercial banks created a mess....And later big banks followed their footsteps.....Harassing a large population out of greed and foolishness and out of few situations was never a good idea.....Now a powerful blow to their face....Wait & Watch ....

Baki Ishwwor Ko Leela....
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"these arseholes" - nice, let's express anger so that politician would see and scare them.
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Banks can maintain spread rates which is around 4%

Banks can maintain average 3% or 10% on deposits

Banks can maintain average lending rates of 7% (3%+4%) or 14% (10%+4%)

That 4% is banks profit

Why bank are increasing interest rates if profit is same (4%) either on 7% or 14%?

1 - Because increasing interest rates gives them higher return on their equity which has increased giantly due to capital increment (share capital+reserves)
2 - Their unholy competition

.....In nutshell, these arseholes are putting fire to the general borrowers for miserably inadequate selfishness.....day will come soon when borrowers will put their socks in their mouth....Soon after sometime the liquidity crunch is over due to varied reasons....

....BAKI ISHWOR KO LEELA...
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When nepse was trending upward, NEPSE/SEBON/RBB GOV/FM all had throbbing headache but when it hit rock bottom all of them went into hibernation
Similarly when there was liquidity banks used to give 1-2% interest in deposit and non of these MFs uttered a word, now in the situation of crunch when general depositors are getting return on there small amount of deposit why these BRATs r crying as if they ve scald burn.
« Last edit by Dubosi7 on Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:43 pm. »
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kbl offered 13% on FD. Why this cat-mouse game? Raise interest to 15% for good.

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double digit drop again...why because NRB couldnot tame MOFO bankers

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I did not misunderstood you, somebody je.

What I was trying to say was "Those who are harming Nepal, NEPSE are ............ "
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i was pointing bankers as MOFO not you rising sir

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I am no MOFO- I am a Nepali, I am what I am cause of share market- that is why, forget about harming NEPSE, Nepal, Nepali economy, Nepali society....... I can even think of doing harm to them. :roll:
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mf haru le market badhna dine bhayenan.

waiting for 14% fixed deposit.

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जनता बैंकले मुद्धति निक्षेपमा १२ प्रतिशत ब्याज दिने
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The market now loves Jay Powell

The market's interpretation of Fed Chair Powell's comments was clear- they think the Fed is freaked out by the market decline and will be...


In his speech Wednesday, Powell spoke directly to the stock market volatility and somewhat downplayed the recent action. "It is important to distinguish between market volatility and events that threaten financial stability," Powell said. "Large" sustained declines in equity prices can put downward pressure on spending and confidence. From the financial stability perspective, however, today we do not see dangerous excesses in the stock market."



------------ Like I have been saying, when share market looses a lot of money, dont expect people to invest weather in share market or in business. They even wont spend money in consumption, so no growth.


Savages so called economist dont understand. But they fully cover media, thinking of Nepal


sati ko sarap
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Thanks Bhairab ji for some good points. But, like the most programs of social insurances they tend to be costly. People draw out more than they put in and eventually the government will have to make up for the shortfall leading to
increase in taxes. I like your points about tourism, agriculture and electricity and that they should be our area of focus.
I am always amazed what small Netherlands have accomplished in Agriculture, becoming the second largest food exporter in the world. They exported $92 billion worth of agricultural products in 2017. If we could do 2% of that, it will change the face of our country.


https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-american-food-giant-the-largest-exporter-of-food-in-the-world.html
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/09/holland-agriculture-sustainable-farming/
http://www.worldstopexports.com/netherlands-top-10-exports/

On tourism front, I think two million visitors are attainable. I read somewhere today that Nepalese travelers going abroad spent twice the amount of what foreigners spent in Nepal in the last 9 months. That is a crazy statistic.
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1 - The funds are for UNORGANIZED SECTOR WORKERS.
2 - Their salary and earning is below 20,000 and all is spent in their living expenses.

1 - Electric Vehicle Revolution lie ahead. & OPEC knows that their future is now constrained.
2 - Saudi Arabia ARAMCO (largest energy producer whose valuation is roughly at 2 trillion dollar) is selling off its 5% stake (Largest IPO in world history) to enable govt to raise 100 billion dollar which shall be reinvested in building tourist destinations in Saudi Arabia.
3 - Many vehicle manufacturers (volvo, volkswagon, audi toyota etc) are stopping their petroleum based vehicle by 2025 and JOINING THE LEAGUE OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES
4 - Shift from current Lithium Ion Technology to Solid State battery technology will create a revolution that world has never seen
5- Demand for WHITE GOLD (ELECTRICITY) will surge rapidly in coming days
7 - World Economic Forum also envisages shift of regional power from middle-east to other countries and restructuring of energy industry

1 - Nepal now has to focus on only 3 things, - ELECTRICITY SALE - TOURISM - AGRICULTURE
2 - Many policy level understandings have been reached for cross border electricity sales

1 - Nepal needs large funds to build electricity
2 - Funds from UNORGANIZED SECTOR will now be available which can be prudently invested
3 - 300 Billion units of electricity can be produced & EXPORTED FROM Nepal EASILY & commercially and can fetch NET 1600 Billion Revenue to Nepal EACH YEAR. That is a huge money.
4 - Nepal needs funds. Either Internally or Externally. Internally Generated funds will help more as the money remains in Nepal.
5 - This fund will be huge and large and autonomous like CIT & EPF.
6 - CIT & EPF made profitable projects like madhyabhotekoshi, tamakoshi etc. Than this fund can also make.
7 - CIT & EPF has been successful and has large asset base. Than this fund can also follow the same.
8 - CIT & EPF has also billions of rupees in stock market. This fund will also diversify its investment and have stock investments.
9 - This fund will change lives of worker class populations and also create huge saving surplus which otherwise have been spent on Consumption alone.
10- Positivity


....Nepal Has Wonderful Future.....Baki Ishwor Ko LEELA.....
« Last edit by पूजीभैरव on Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:29 am. »
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Why don't they just build and maintain 10000 KM of 4 lanes highways enveloping the country? That, itself will bring more economic development and prosperity than all the programs of social insurances.
I am as liberal as they come, however, this is tremendous burden for the government.
Its resources and time is better spent on improving infrastructures and producing educated mass.
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हिटलरको देशबाट सामाजिक बीमा हुँदै यसरी आयो नेपालसम्म सामाजिक सुरक्षा

Not just technology, US stole ideas from Hitler too.

- From rocket technology, nuke, car, probably a lot more .......

- Car for all was Hitler's idea which helped US to build their modern economy.
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Samajik Surakshya Ain 2075

- 1 kharab each year.
Pro- people will get pension
Con- that money will be controlled by idiot, criminals.

By the way, what is the difference between current sanchya kos and this??? Govt will give more grant?? And Nepal will be in huge debt just like US????


I dont remember, during oli's previous govt or next govt, they started public discussion about samajik surakshya, my advice was "let all nepalese who want to join, join. including bharya, foreign employee, house wife as well as unemployed".

I guess they will start in second phase.


They are talking about investing that fund in so called productive sector..... what could possibly go wrong????

Current pension funds and life insurance are destroying economy by accumulating most of the capital from Nepali society which they deposit in Fixed account demanding high interest. That kind of investment is unproductive investment... depositing for high interest is unproductive and harms economy which we are facing.



By the way, has Samajik Surakshya Ain 2075, begun??? Do they have money in their account? Is this ran by new trust or by old trust like CIT? When will they start to invest in share market?

Why dont NEPSE give online account to CIT, arm, police etc immediately???









PS- some where I read, it took them 7 years to draft Samajik Surakshya Ain 2075.

This is why, I have been saying, let think tank make policy. Bureaucrat are slow, they have no guts, incompetent, not motivated.

It took them 7 year just to draft, wonder how many years they will take to solve problems it will generate.

And why is Oli and bista trying to take credit???
« Last edit by The Rising Sun on Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:09 pm. »
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पूजीभैरवजी, एउटा जिज्ञासा राख्न मन लाग्यो ।

नेपालको Debt/GDP ratio कति छ होला ? केही जानकारी छ भने यसमा प्रकाश पारि दिनुहोस ।
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Samajik Surakshya Ain 2075

Fact
1 - Around 35 lakh workers in industries.
2- Minimum wage is around 13500.

Section 26
1-Contribution from employee & employer, sanchayakosh and other (which amounts to roughly 1 kharab each year)
2 -Grants from government/international institutions
3 -Profits from the funds
Hence huge amount shall be generated

Section 32
1 - Shall be invested in fixed deposits/bonds/debentures (Section 32 ka & kha)
2 - Shall be invested in shares of banks and financial institutions and other limited liability companies (Section 32 ga)

...This will create huge savings in the nation...Currently savings are of Employees Only and is related to EPF & CIT. but now a large worker population will have their seperate fund with the largest quantity of money...This larger population never saved but always spent what they little earned...Now they have to save as well.....Also such savings shall be channelized to the banking system and aid in liquidity creation..... Sthaniya Nikaya Ko Paisa + Samajik Surakshya Kosh (Worker Sector Only) = Substantial Liquidity in the future....Baki Ishwor Ko Leela....
« Last edit by पूजीभैरव on Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:56 am. »
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MARKET DIP = ONLY REASON = LIQUIDITY CRISIS = HIGH INTEREST RATE LEVELS = FEAR OF INTEREST RATE SURGE

.....BAKI ISHWOR KO LEELA....
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THE FINANCE MINISTER HAS BEEN BHOKING(DOG BARKING) IT SINCE HIS FIRST DAY...BUT NO ACTIONS ARE TAKEN TO TACKLE/CONTROL IT. IT IS JUST A POPULIST AGENDA TO ACCUMULATE FUNDS FOR NEXT ELECTION FROM BIG CORPORATE HOUSES, IN NEPAL, TRADING MAFIAS/MARWADIS.

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